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Post by 1moreprototype on Apr 7, 2022 9:57:50 GMT -5
Hello,
Has anyone ever tried to pull silicone with a high viscosity (35,000 cps) through a cavity mould using a vacuum?
I am trying to fully encapsulate a iron core with silicone in a mould that has a 3mm gap between mould and core. I need to use a high viscosity silicone as the finished product requires a Shore Hardness of 50A, soft touch and skin safe. (The prototype in question is a exercise weight.) I have tried previously degassing and syringe injecting - which left air bubbles and gravity pouring the silicone in a vacuum casting machine. However as the viscosity is high, it does not flow around the core quick enough for the workable pot life.
Does anyone know if by pulling the silicone through the mould using a vacuum (as you would in resin infusion) would work? And has anyone experienced pulling a high viscosity silicone through a mould.
Thank you.
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Post by notoes on Apr 15, 2022 6:15:04 GMT -5
I have not done degassing with an actual vacuum chamber yet as mine is to be delivered today but the way I've seen the degassing done is about 2 minutes at 29 (sorry I don't know how to read the dial yet) and you're supposed to be able to have plenty of time to get it in the mold without it curing too fast on you. Plat 55 fit the shore hardness, is FDA compliant, and has an open time of 45 minutes. And if you're having trouble getting it to fully encapsulate inside a mold, you could also pour it in "layers" and do a little at a time as silicone bonds to silicone with no problems. Also you can always add more after demolding to thinner layers.
As for resin infusion, I haven't done that myself so can we have any member who has done it chime in on this?
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Post by 1moreprototype on Apr 16, 2022 3:06:25 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply and advice. You're right, there would be enough pot life in 45 minutes to let it flow however as my mold is a cavity pour with a metal core there is only a 3mm void for the silicone to flow within. I think what is happening is the friction caused by the silicone wanting to stick to the sides of the mold as it flow around, plus the chemical setting as it cures means it cant fully encapsulate the mold in time before it cures and stops flowing completely.
I have however had a change of plan. I will now try, degassing the silicone first, injecting the silicone into the mould with a large syringe, then using the vacuum to degass the part within the mold to try and get rid of any air that might have been accidently 'injected' in. I will try and update you with how this works.
Thank you again.
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Post by notoes on Apr 23, 2022 7:33:00 GMT -5
That sounds like a good plan, please do keep us updated.
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